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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 22, 2005 10:36pm
Forum: etree Subject: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Here's a voluntary questionnaire that is pretty tough, and likely a little annoying as well (but i'm in a mischievous mood today, so what the heck).

It's the classic desert island question, and here's the criteria: You can take 4 Dead shows with you, but JUST ONE from each decade from the 1960's to the '90's. (Nasty, I know). What to do? You may have to leave out an overall better show than one other because it might lack an essential song, like an Eyes or a Dew. And would you choose a show you attended over one you didn't, even if it's not quite as tasty, just to have that "I was there" factor?

Anyway, here are my picks for what it's worth:

4-21-69:
Get your classic 60's show w/a Dark Star and St. Stephen fix...plus the bonus of Jerry wailing on a Foxy Lady riff.

10-29-77:
Simply my favorite Dead show of all time. No brainer.

9-25-81:
Gotta have a Scarlet>Fire, and (so far) this is my favorite. It's also just a jamming hot show.

3-29-90:
Branford with the Dead. Pure heavenly versions of BirdSong and Eyes. Plus I was there.

Anyone else care to play along?

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Poster: BeholdtheLambofGod Date: Aug 23, 2005 10:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Wowzer, this is a loaded question, ( but so fun!)

I dont know 'bout the rest of you, but I'm so finicky, so these dates are tentative, but based around the first shows I recieved on tape about 12 years ago.

2-14-70. Maybe its a gimme, or cliche, but this tape was being absorbed quickly and repeatedly before it was released by Dick.

12-31-78- again, not the best show in the world, but at the time..it rocked my cylinder's, and..well, it's still good.

3-24-90. Man, I love those Knickerbocker shows.

6-24-85. That energy filled, scratchy voice and sloppy filled playing still recieves mucho airtime. 1985 overated? Maybe...but it still gets me hot, almost every damn summer tour show...hot hot.

7-20-94. The late nineties are always a hot-button. I enjoyed the music, warts and all...and this is one of favorites I recieved early on.

Peace friends, and happy listening.

Great is our Lord and mighty in power; His understanding has no limit. -Psalm 147:5

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Poster: Fishead Date: Aug 23, 2005 3:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

12-30-69 Boston Tea Party, Boston, Ma. (Tue)

1: Good Lovin, Mama Tried, New Speedway, Casey Jones, Black Peter, Me & My Uncle, Midnight Hour, Cumberland, Cryptical> Drums> Other One> Cryptical> Cosmic Charlie

2: Uncle John> Mason's Children> China Cat> I Know You Rider, Dark Star> Alligator> Drums> The Eleven> Alligator> Feedback> We Bid You Goodnight

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02-03-79 Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, In.

1: Promised, Candyman, Mama Tried> Mexicali, China Cat> I Know You Rider, Minglewood, Stagger Lee, Heart Of Me, Music

2: Scarlet> Fire, Estimated> Eyes> Drumz>
Other One> Wharf Rat> Miracle> Casey Jones
E: Saturday Night
last "China Cat> I Know You Rider": 12-29-77 [95]
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03-30-88 Meadowlands Arena, East Rutherford, N.J.

1: Bertha> Greatest> Hey Pocky Way, West L. A., Queen Jane, Big RxR Blues, Cassidy> Don't Ease

2: Shakedown> L. L. Rain, Uncle John> Playin> Uncle John> Drumz> Wheel> Gimme Some Lovin> Morning Dew> Lovelight E: Black Muddy River
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03-30-90 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, N.Y.

1: Help> Slipknot> Franklin's, Rooster, Dire Wolf, All Over Now, Tom Thumb Blues, Picasso Moon, Don't Ease

2: Iko Iko, Playin> China Doll> Uncle John> Terrapin> Drumz> Miracle> Gimme Some Lovin> SOTM> NFA E: Attics


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Poster: JodyC Date: Aug 25, 2005 6:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Fishead, where is the 3/30/90 hiding? Don't see it here or on dead.net as a release.

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Aug 25, 2005 8:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

It seems 3/30/90 has left the building!
I also chose that show on my list so if it is that popular maybe it's destined for official release.
Does anybody know?

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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Aug 25, 2005 9:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Don't know when it was taken out, but I know it's been listed here as one of the relevant dates since the beginning of June:
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-band-details.php?band_id=3
Clickable from any GD item here as "Band policy / notes"

ref thread
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=36955

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-08-25 16:46:05

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Poster: JodyC Date: Aug 25, 2005 10:02am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Thanks for the info guys.

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Aug 25, 2005 11:32am
Forum: etree Subject: 3/30 & 4/1 1990

Yes, thanks again, Diana. I've bookmarked that Band Policy page just in case I need it. Not sure if it was available before but 4/1/90 is also listed as GD property so I'm guessing that they intend to package 3/30 and 4/1 together as either a Dick's Picks or perhaps even a future video release. Here's the setlist for 4/1 in case you're interested:

Grateful Dead
4/1/90
The Omni
Atlanta, GA

Set One: Touch Of Grey > Walkin' Blues ; Just A Little Light ; Candyman ; Me And My Uncle > Big River ; Althea ; Victim Or The Crime > To Lay Me Down > The Music Never Stopped

Set Two: China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider > Ship Of Fools > Man Smart, Woman Smarter > Drums > Space > Dear Mr. Fantasy > Hey Jude > Truckin' > Stella Blue > Sugar Magnolia

Encore: It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Aug 23, 2005 1:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

4/27/69

5/9/77

5/7/80

7/16/90

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Aug 23, 2005 11:42am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

ONE show per DECADE?
Surely you jest. Don't call you Shirley...yeah, yeah...
This was difficult but rewarding, like all the good things in life. Comments are from deadlists.com. Feel free to skip them. Ready, set, GO!

The 60s:

2/14/68
Carousel Ballroom
San Francisco, CA

One Morning Dew [6:24] % Good Morning Little Schoolgirl [12:26] % Dark Star [4:10] > China Cat Sunflower [4:06] > The Eleven [5:09] > Turn On Your Lovelight [9:01] ; (1) [0:05]
Two (2) Cryptical Envelopment [1:42] > The Other One [3:06] > Cryptical Envelopment [3:58] > New Potato Caboose [8:37] > Born Cross-Eyed [2:46] > Spanish Jam [11:59]; [3:14]; Alligator [3:17] > Drums [2:27] > (3) Alligator [7:56] > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) [10:40] > Feedback [5:24]
Encore (4) In The Midnight Hour [9:51]
Comments: The Dead played their first set, then Country Joe and the Fish played, then the Dead did their second set. Only Country Joe and the second Dead set were FM broadcast. Much of this show was used for Anthem of the Sun. The cuts at the start of the first 3 songs of set 1 appear to be very brief - just the first few notes of each intro. China Cat Sunflower and the Eleven blend seamlessly together; evidence seems to imply that they were one and the same song during this period (see David Gans' interview with Robert Hunter in his book "Conversations With the Dead," p.24). Lovelight contains a small splice/dropout at about 3:14. Many Set 1 tapes in circulation only include Dark Star thru Lovelight. (1) After Lovelight: Weir: "Thank you." Garcia: "Uh, we have to...um...go for a while. We'll be back later on. Country Joe & the Fish are gonna..." (tape cuts). (2) Announcements preceding set 2: Announcer: "...soon to have an album out (unintelligible), the Grateful Dead" Garcia: "Why, thank you. Thank you." (sarcastic) Weir(off-mic): "Now for our next morbid selection..." Garcia: "Okay, we've got a few things to say before we get into the real thing of it, and that is that some friends of ours, Lavelle & tiffany, just had a kid." Lesh: "Happy Lavelle." Garcia: "Yeah, Happy Lavelle, and we'd like to dedicate (unintelligible)...and also..." Lesh: "Whole set, whole date, whole year..." Garcia: "And also, we respectfully dedicate this set to the memory of Neal Cassady." (audience cheers) Weir: "And in particular this song." Lesh (talking over Weir): "Ernie Bo-Peep, we hope, is listening." Weir: "Ernie Bo-Peep." Lesh: "Ernie Bo-Peep." Weir: (off-mic, counts off Cryptical intro) (3) tape flip in Alligator jam appears to be the same one as is on copies from the older source. (4) Midnight Hour cuts mid-jam at [6:02] on the SBD, significantly earlier than on copies from the old FM source. On those tapes, only the last few notes appear to be clipped, with the song timing [9:51] to that point. Some copies in circulation do have the continuation of the Midnight Hour encore patched in, after which the following announcement is made: "Hey remember, we're all prisoners till everybody is free. So tomorrow come out to San Quentin - they need our support. One o'clock, or one-thirty, or two o'clock. Anytime around then. Country Joe and the Fish came here from New York tonight, uh, and so when they left it was about four o'clock their time (in the morning) and they got up at eight. They wanted to stay around, jam some more, but - uh - their gonna rest up and come out to San Quentin tomorrow - as well as the Dead, and some of the Airplane, and some of the other bands." Then the KMPX radio DJ then comes on and questions weather they will play some more, determines that they won't, and then says that the time is now twenty past two. The timing for this song needs to be updated to include the ending and the post-show banter.


The 70s:

9/21/72
The Spectrum
Philadelphia, PA

One The Promised Land [3:59] ; Bird Song [13:05] ; El Paso [4:24] ; China Cat Sunflower [6:56] > I Know You Rider [4:54] (1) ; Black Throated Wind (2) [6:03] ; Big Railroad Blues [3:53] ; Jack Straw [4:26] ; Loser [6:34] ; Big River [4:27] ; Ramble On Rose [5:56] ; Cumberland Blues [6:#50] ; Playing In The Band (3) [16:25] (4)
Two He's Gone [14:01] > Truckin' [11:11] ; Black Peter [8:58] ; Mexicali Blues [3:10] ; Dark Star (5) [37:06] > Morning Dew [11:05] ; Beat It On Down The Line (6) [3:04] ; Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo [9:11] ; Sugar Magnolia [7:57] ; Friend Of The Devil [#3:00] ; Not Fade Away [6:00] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [7:30] > Not Fade Away [3:01]
Encore One More Saturday Night [4:37]
Comments: The complete show in SBD. The complete AUD tape also circulates. (1) China Cat Sunflower [2:30] > Jam [4:24] > I Know You Rider [4:54] (2) Before Black throated Wind: Weir: Courtesy of our wizard-like piano amplification system. There you have it. That was a good one. (3) Before Playing In The Band: Garcia: Bobby's got a busted string, so he's gonna fix it. Weir: I mean we can't play when it sounds like that, so we're gonna fix it. (4) Weir: thank you. We're gonna tak a short break. Garcia: Short break. Weir: and we'll be back in just a few minutes so hang loose. Garcia: Back in a few minutes, back in a few minutes. (5) {Dark Star theme [2:22] > Variations on theme [5:06] > pretty theme [4:11] > Dark Star theme/First Verse [1:45] > Light Speedy Jam [5:10] > Dissonant/Tiger Jam [8:35] > Unknown theme [3:10] > GDTRFB-like Jam [3:25] > MLB-like Jam [3:14] > Morning Dew} (6) 7 beats

The 80s:

9/12/81
Greek Theatre - University of California
Berkeley, CA

One Shakedown Street [13:46] ; Greatest Story Ever Told [3:43] ; Friend Of The Devil [8:35] > El Paso [5:07] ; Bird Song [10:34] > Cassidy [5:10] ; Tennessee Jed [7:51] > Looks Like Rain [8:23] ; China Cat Sunflower [7:26] > I Know You Rider [5:20]
Two Scarlet Begonias [11:40] > Fire On The Mountain [12:53] ; C C Rider [8:44] ; Estimated Prophet [10:55] > Eyes Of The World [11:42] > Space [7:35] > Drums [9:36] > Not Fade Away [10:08] > Wharf Rat [9:27] > Around And Around [3:57] > One More Saturday Night [4:20]
Encore It's All Over Now, Baby Blue [6:49] ; Good Lovin' [7:53]
Comments: According to Ray Augustine on 16 May 2003: This is the famous, or not so famous as the case may be, "Hey Phil, what's happening!" show. As [the Band] came out for a second encore...Lesh was missing. So Weir got us all to shout at the top of our lungs, "Hey Phil, What's Happening!"


The 90s:

3/30/90
Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Uniondale, NY

One Help On The Way (3:26)-> Slipknot! (6:03)-> Franklin's Tower (9:08) ; Little Red Rooster (8:32); Dire Wolf (3:09) ; It's All Over Now (6:29) ; Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (5:38) ; Picasso Moon (7:45) ; Don't Ease Me In (3:10)
Two Iko Iko (6:49) ; Playin' In The Band (9:16)-> China Doll (5:39)-> Uncle John's Band (8:13)-> Terrapin Station (12:54)-> Drums (9:12)-> Space (11:19)-> I Need A Miracle (4:00)-> Gimme Some Lovin'(4:52)-> Standing On the Moon (8:52)-> Not Fade Away (6:30)
Encore Attics Of My Life (4:55)
Comments: Show was broadcast on WNEW-FM in NYC. On the soundboard recording (Cassette Master > DAT > CD) used for timings, Set One has splices between the songs.

I can't believe I didn't pick a show from my favorite year, 1977, or about million other shows I love. I guess when it boils down to it I really want a monster version of Dark Star above all else. Make that two! ;-)

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Poster: bonk Date: Aug 23, 2005 1:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

tough question but here we go:
4/22/69 The Ark in Boston/WOW!!
5/22/77 Pembrook Pines Fla./Eyes is amazing!!!
10/26/89 Miami Arena!!One for the Ages!
6-8-90 Cal Expo/Just a smokin show

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Aug 23, 2005 3:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Gosh you guys aren't very optimistic!

I of course brought my laptop with wireless satelite connectability to the island and just started streaming my favorite shows from LMA until I can get Brad or someone to send a rescue craft bearing blank CD's my way.

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Poster: *Merlin* Date: Aug 23, 2005 12:35am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

OK, I'll take the bait though this is asking for controversy!

2/27/69 Even though this Live Dead Dark Star is ingrained in my brain forever, I'd still want to be able to hear it with my ears.

11/11/73 Tough to pick just one from the 70's but for now this will do. Jerry plays typically ho-hum first set songs with classical virtuosity and from China>Rider on is just bliss. Tough call between this and 5/11/72. Ask me tomorrow and maybe Rotterdam gets the nod.

10/9/89 Hey, its the 80's technically and between a killer Stranger and that all-time second set you can't go wrong. Early 80's I like 9/17/82 (my first bootleg) and 10/20/84 or 3/28/85.

9/10/91 A+ Setlist, gooey, inspired play and a cyrstal clear SBD available here. 3/29 & 3/30/90 and 6/14/91 are in the mix too.

There are certainly better shows in each decade but I like my Dark Stars and I'm taking them with me. Missing out on some Other One's so maybe I'd take that into consideration and do some swapping.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Aug 25, 2005 6:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead: Dead by Decade

Merlin- I was looking for the 3/30/90 show you and Fishead mentioned as your top show of the 90's but don't see it here or in the Dicks Picks/ Vault releases. Thought it might have been Dozin at the Knick but those were earlier shows. Any idea?